diff --git a/internal/terraform/context_plan_test.go b/internal/terraform/context_plan_test.go
index cfd51da8c..1159f0b42 100644
--- a/internal/terraform/context_plan_test.go
+++ b/internal/terraform/context_plan_test.go
@@ -5308,6 +5308,7 @@ func TestContext2Plan_selfRefMultiAll(t *testing.T) {
 		ResourceTypes: map[string]*configschema.Block{
 			"aws_instance": {
 				Attributes: map[string]*configschema.Attribute{
+					"id":  {Type: cty.String, Computed: true},
 					"foo": {Type: cty.List(cty.String), Optional: true},
 				},
 			},
diff --git a/internal/terraform/evaluate.go b/internal/terraform/evaluate.go
index 71e02d969..c4d45efbf 100644
--- a/internal/terraform/evaluate.go
+++ b/internal/terraform/evaluate.go
@@ -654,6 +654,25 @@ func (d *evaluationStateData) GetResource(addr addrs.Resource, rng tfdiags.Sourc
 		return cty.DynamicVal, diags
 	}
 
+	// Build the provider address from configuration, since we may not have
+	// state available in all cases.
+	// We need to build an abs provider address, but we can use a default
+	// instance since we're only interested in the schema.
+	providerAddr := moduleAddr.ProviderConfigDefault(config.Provider)
+	schema := d.getResourceSchema(addr, providerAddr)
+	if schema == nil {
+		// This shouldn't happen, since validation before we get here should've
+		// taken care of it, but we'll show a reasonable error message anyway.
+		diags = diags.Append(&hcl.Diagnostic{
+			Severity: hcl.DiagError,
+			Summary:  `Missing resource type schema`,
+			Detail:   fmt.Sprintf("No schema is available for %s in %s. This is a bug in Terraform and should be reported.", addr, providerAddr),
+			Subject:  rng.ToHCL().Ptr(),
+		})
+		return cty.DynamicVal, diags
+	}
+	ty := schema.ImpliedType()
+
 	rs := d.Evaluator.State.Resource(addr.Absolute(d.ModulePath))
 
 	if rs == nil {
@@ -675,34 +694,27 @@ func (d *evaluationStateData) GetResource(addr addrs.Resource, rng tfdiags.Sourc
 				// (since a planned destroy cannot yet remove root outputs), we
 				// need to return a dynamic value here to allow evaluation to
 				// continue.
-				log.Printf("[ERROR] unknown instance %q referenced during plan", addr.Absolute(d.ModulePath))
+				log.Printf("[ERROR] unknown instance %q referenced during %s", addr.Absolute(d.ModulePath), d.Operation)
 				return cty.DynamicVal, diags
 			}
-
 		default:
-			// We should only end up here during the validate walk,
-			// since later walks should have at least partial states populated
-			// for all resources in the configuration.
-			return cty.DynamicVal, diags
+			if d.Operation != walkValidate {
+				log.Printf("[ERROR] missing state for %q while in %s\n", addr.Absolute(d.ModulePath), d.Operation)
+			}
+
+			// Validation is done with only the configuration, so generate
+			// unknown values of the correct shape for evaluation.
+			switch {
+			case config.Count != nil:
+				return cty.UnknownVal(cty.List(ty)), diags
+			case config.ForEach != nil:
+				return cty.UnknownVal(cty.Map(ty)), diags
+			default:
+				return cty.UnknownVal(ty), diags
+			}
 		}
 	}
 
-	providerAddr := rs.ProviderConfig
-
-	schema := d.getResourceSchema(addr, providerAddr)
-	if schema == nil {
-		// This shouldn't happen, since validation before we get here should've
-		// taken care of it, but we'll show a reasonable error message anyway.
-		diags = diags.Append(&hcl.Diagnostic{
-			Severity: hcl.DiagError,
-			Summary:  `Missing resource type schema`,
-			Detail:   fmt.Sprintf("No schema is available for %s in %s. This is a bug in Terraform and should be reported.", addr, providerAddr),
-			Subject:  rng.ToHCL().Ptr(),
-		})
-		return cty.DynamicVal, diags
-	}
-	ty := schema.ImpliedType()
-
 	// Decode all instances in the current state
 	instances := map[addrs.InstanceKey]cty.Value{}
 	pendingDestroy := d.Evaluator.Changes.IsFullDestroy()
@@ -862,28 +874,6 @@ func (d *evaluationStateData) GetResource(addr addrs.Resource, rng tfdiags.Sourc
 		ret = val
 	}
 
-	// since the plan was not yet created during validate, the values we
-	// collected here may not correspond with configuration, so they must be
-	// unknown.
-	if d.Operation == walkValidate {
-		// While we know the type here and it would be nice to validate whether
-		// indexes are valid or not, because tuples and objects have fixed
-		// numbers of elements we can't simply return an unknown value of the
-		// same type since we have not expanded any instances during
-		// validation.
-		//
-		// In order to validate the expression a little precisely, we'll create
-		// an unknown map or list here to get more type information.
-		switch {
-		case config.Count != nil:
-			ret = cty.UnknownVal(cty.List(ty))
-		case config.ForEach != nil:
-			ret = cty.UnknownVal(cty.Map(ty))
-		default:
-			ret = cty.UnknownVal(ty)
-		}
-	}
-
 	return ret, diags
 }
 
diff --git a/internal/terraform/testdata/plan-self-ref-multi-all/main.tf b/internal/terraform/testdata/plan-self-ref-multi-all/main.tf
index d3a9857f7..a4d28f8a0 100644
--- a/internal/terraform/testdata/plan-self-ref-multi-all/main.tf
+++ b/internal/terraform/testdata/plan-self-ref-multi-all/main.tf
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 resource "aws_instance" "web" {
-    foo = "${aws_instance.web.*.foo}"
+    foo = aws_instance.web[*].id
     count = 4
 }